Does God Send People To Hell?

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Does God Sentence People To An Eternity Of Punishment In Hell?

By TNSr5r@unseen.is, February, 2014

 

Many people ask this question. In fact, millions have asked this question over the past 2,000 years, and even longer. Some have asked out of fear; some because they do not know. Many have asked because they would seek to condemn, or at least reject, a God who would torture people for an eternity FOR ANY REASON at all, but especially those people refused to kneel down and worship him.

So how about it? Does God sentence people to eternal torture just because they would not do exactly what he demands?

The first thing that must be settled is the fact that we are dealing with a Biblical concept so we will look for the answers in the Bible. It would be a little foolish, and MORE than a little dishonest, if we ask a biblical question and then look for the answer in the Koran or the Encyclopedia Britannica or in some autobiography of a famous actor or some other writing. If we ask a question about a Biblical concept, then we are intellectually and philosophically limited to the Bible for an answer to the question.

In other words, let’s say the Bible DOES claim that God will send anyone who doesn’t totally obey him to spend an eternity in torture. If we can find an acceptable explanation in ANY OTHER WRITING, we can claim we have the option of embracing that answer and putting the matter to rest.

But would the matter STAY at rest? I mean, really? For most people, there would always be questions; like, “If God really meant THAT, then why didn’t he put it in the Bible?” or, “If God really meant THAT, then why did it take thousands of years to let us know? Isn’t that torture in itself? Letting millions of people die in fear of their eternity, yet knowing all the time that the answer would get written in the Twentieth Century: only a cruel God would do that!”

ADMIT IT! No matter what answer you come up with, no matter how much sense it makes to you, ANY ANSWER to this question that does not come from the Bible will bring up many more questions. Face it: only God can come up with an acceptable answer to this question, and the Bible is the only acceptable place to put that answer. If God is going to put that THREAT in the Bible, then God must put the EXPLANATION in the Bible, too.

So feel free to look anywhere else you want for the answer to this question, but I will take the time to look at only the Bible for the answer and nowhere else. In other words, you can read anyone’s conjecture ABOUT the Bible, or you can read the Bible.

And the answer is not a simple or short response. If you ask a deep question about an eternal issue, one about which many thousands of pages of text has been written over thousands of years, and you want a short yes/no answer… Well, don’t you think that is kind of stupid? You asked a serious question about a serious issue, and you will get a serious answer. Deal with it! After all, one way or another, this is YOUR eternity we are talking about!

But first let me clear up two errors that have been propagated, perhaps even invented, by the Christian Church.

First, you don’t go to hell because of things you do. No one goes to hell because he or she commits sins, or does bad things, or makes mistakes. No one goes to hell for lying or stealing or committing adultery. You can go to hell for one reason and ONLY one reason – you have chosen to not believe the God of the Bible and the claims of Christ.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. [Romans 1:18-21, NASB]

Second, you don’t go to heaven because of the things you do. Anyone and everyone can go to heaven regardless of your religious background and beliefs. Scripture tells us that people can go to heaven if they choose to go to heaven. The only requirement is to believe in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus – believe that in his life, death, and resurrection there is a power and a plan to erase sin and render you acceptable to God for an eternity. And Scripture indicates that “believe” is more than a simple intellectual collection of facts; it is instead a process of accepting by faith that this life, death, and resurrection of Jesus is the only sacrifice for your sins that is acceptable to God and relying on that sacrifice as your only means of being invited to heaven by God. This “believe” results in being adopted into the Family of God and in being an adopted brother to Jesus.

But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. [Roman 3:21-26, NIV]

You don’t go to hell for what you do – you go to hell because of who you are.

If you are adopted into God’s family, you go with him to heaven for an eternity. If you aren’t adopted into God’s family, you get left behind. It’s as simple as that!

Now, back to the question of hell…

The concept of hell was ambiguously present in what Christians call the Old Testament, the first two-thirds of the Christian Bible. The Jews would refer to these writings as the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms, or sometimes the Torah. The libraries of Christians and Jews alike have many, many books and essays and theological papers on hell, but both have very little Scripture on it. [SEE NOTE #1]

The Christian New Testament has more on the topic, and it is more specific, but most of the individual references, both Old and New Testament, are still somewhat incomplete. In other words, it takes putting them all together into a composite description before you can actually get a picture of hell. But first, we need to tell a story in order to get the “big picture” so the smaller snapshots will make more sense.

So, let’s start way back at the beginning; and the beginning was way back before the universe was created.

Before God created anything, he had a PLAN. He wanted a being, perhaps many beings, besides himself for fellowship and companionship for the rest of eternity. We don’t know how long he waited to implement this PLAN, because we don’t have any calendar to measure the first part of eternity, eternity past. Or the second part of eternity, eternity future, for that matter. Anyway, it was a long time ago, if we can even use the word “time” in this part of the discussion. Also, I don’t intend to say that God NEEDED our fellowship, or that he WANTED our fellowship; there are many books of theology to address that question. You are on your own for that. I merely want to say that God DECIDED to have our fellowship. God DECIDED to create a being that had an eternal part, an eternal aspect of his being, which would last for eternity. Stick with me here; this is important.

According to the Bible, only God, angelic beings, and mankind, will be around for the rest of eternity. [SEE NOTE #2]

Of course, many people want to think that their dogs will be in heaven for eternity, too, and I kind of like that idea. But those who talk about “doggie heaven” with everyone don’t talk about “doggie hell” with anyone. So we are going to restrict our discussion to just God, angelic beings, and mankind.

So God DECIDED to create mankind. And he decided to create an entire universe as mankind’s playground, and a beautiful planet for mankind to live on.   And then he created his masterpiece: mankind. Note that God created mankind in two models – male and female. There were probably many reasons why God created a male and female version of mankind, but the first reason given in the Bible was so that mankind would reflect the image of God. Apparently it took a male and a female version of mankind in order to get enough of God reflected to satisfy him. Maybe that means that Adam by himself was not God’s image, contrary to what so many people have taught for so many years; maybe creating mankind in God’s image required creating a male and female in fellowship. But again, you can argue about that on your own time.

Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let THEM rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over the creatures that move along the ground.” So God created man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he THEM. [Genesis 1:26-27, NIV]

Some people have suggested it was a little wasteful for God to create an entire universe just for a single planet of people. But when you can do ANYTHING you want to do, does it really matter?

And some people believe God created such a huge universe because he wanted to create more than one planet full of people. But when you can do anything you want, does it really matter?

So, to get back to the issue, God created mankind with an eternal spirit, and he placed mankind in a beautiful garden full of good things to eat, plenty of sunshine, a VERY limited wardrobe, and HBO.

Hold it! Don’t interrupt me! I can tell just by looking at you that you are about to claim Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden are just a story and you don’t believe it. But I would say that the Bible presents the story as if it is true, and key figures all through the Bible, including Jesus, all speak of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden as if they existed. So I have a question for you: If you are going to cut out part of the Bible just because you don’t believe that part, then why don’t you cut out the parts about hell and save me a lot of trouble here?

Still here? Good. And you have just uncovered our second ground rule. The first rule is that we limit the material for our answers to the facts and material in the Bible. The second rule is that we accept ALL of the Bible and we don’t cut out parts just because we don’t or can’t believe in those parts. If we start down that trail, we finish only when we run out of White-Out!

And the third rule is WE DON’T INTERRUPT THE STORY! All righty, then; let’s move on.

But first let me comment on what you were about to bring up. Do you think you are the first to claim there is a part of the Bible you can’t believe? Come on, man, think about it! We are talking about eternity here; infinity in every way possible. And we are talking about God. GOD! That means we HAVE to talk about the impossible! Do you think IMPOSSIBLE is a problem with an infinite God?

Seriously, do you think an eternal hell is even POSSIBLE?

If you think an eternal hell is impossible, and you don’t believe in the impossible, then why are we wasting time here? Let’s blow this discussion and go watch something that is the perfect example of possible: like all the unbelievably stupid people on these “He did my girlfriend so I am going to do his mom” talk shows. I mean, is it possible that there are REALLY that many people stupid enough to fill so many episodes? And do you think there are REALLY that many people stupid enough to WATCH all those shows?

Or, if you want impossible that we can all “see,” let’s look at light. If you can look at light, that is. Scientists tell us that light is a wave of energy in a particular series of wavelengths. Yet they admit that light is also a particle of matter they call a photon. So light is at the same time BOTH a wave of energy AND a particle of matter. And, YES, scientists tell us that is impossible. But impossible doesn’t stop them from soaking up millions of dollars of tax money each year to study impossible.

So DO YOU REALLY THINK IMPOSSIBLE STOPS GOD?

We are talking about a supernatural God and an eternal hell, and you want to tell me you don’t believe in Adam and Eve and a special garden because it is IMPOSSIBLE?

Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” [Matthew 19:26, NIV]

Now, I told you about interrupting the story!

So God created mankind in his own image by creating a male and a female. And being in his image means, IN PART, that mankind will live forever with God. And God put mankind in a special garden facing a river, a couple of trees, and endless possibilities. All God asked was one tiny thing.

And mankind blew it! Eve said, “The devil made me do it!” and Adam said, “May I remind you, God, that it was your idea to bring Eve into the game. I was doing just fine without her.” And God said, “ENOUGH!” and there was silence for a moment. “I gave you a fantastic playground where you could do anything you wanted. I put the most handsome man in the world with the most beautiful woman on the planet. And I gave you everything you needed to eat so you would never have to work for your dinner, and never have to wash the dishes. And I gave you ONE RULE! Only one thing in all the world were you told to not do! And as soon as I turned my back, what did you do?

YOU BROKE MY ONE RULE!

“Adam, you have no idea the repercussions, the ripple effect, your decision is going to have. You have made a horrible impact on all of creation! I created mankind so that ALL MANKIND would enjoy an eternity in heaven with me. EVERYONE who came from your union would have spent an eternity where there was nothing but perfection. EVERY GENERATION of mankind until I stop the clock would have spent a small amount of time on this perfect planet, and then would have gone to spend eternity with me in a perfect heaven.

“But you blew it for everyone, Adam. No, you didn’t surprise me. No, your decision was not unexpected. But you DID disappoint me, Adam. I had intended for ALL mankind to spend eternity in heaven with me. YOU just made that impossible! Someday, you will understand what your decision to disobey me will do to the rest of mankind.”

So God kicked Adam and Eve out of that special garden into a world where they would have to struggle and experience all sorts of problems. And wash a lot of dishes. And it was a VERY imperfect world from that point forward.

But God continued to follow his PLAN to spend eternity with as many of mankind as possible.

You see, God had already dealt with some of his angelic beings. They broke God’s Rules, too. [SEE NOTE #3]

So God had created what we call heaven, a place of perfection where absolutely nothing imperfect can enter. And God sealed heaven against imperfection for all eternity. Nothing imperfect will EVER be able to go to heaven. God will be in heaven for eternity, and as many people as God can gather will be there with him.

But everyone and everything that God CANNOT gather to himself and take to heaven will have to remain in an imperfect universe, forever separated from God, forever separated from everything wonderful and good and perfect. [SEE NOTE #4]

But back to the PLAN…

So God chose a particular group of people, a tribe directly descended from a man he liked, named Abraham, as the people he would honor and bless in ways no other people in all of history would be honored and blessed. The catch? Again, all they had to do was obey the rules. But this time there were ten of them. And what happened? The people blew it.

When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us a god who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.” [Exodus 32:1, NIV]

So God created a new and much larger set of rules. This time the set of rules had two purposes. One purpose was to show mankind just how serious disobedience was to God. God created a spiritual law that required a blood sacrifice for every sin. Someone sinned and something had to die. Then he set up a series of feast days, holy days that the people had to observe, to make the sacrifices more endurable by the people. The second purpose was to show the people how to live. Or more specifically, how God’s Chosen People should live in order to demonstrate: 1) their love for God, 2) their love toward the rest of God’s Chosen People, and 3) God’s love for all people everywhere.

This was a sort of “First and foremost, LOVE ME. And then follow the rest of the rules as if they were normal actions springing out of that love. In addition, there are things you will need to do, sacrifices, that will make amends for messing up. If you LOVE me, and if you LIVE like you love me, and if you FOLLOW these simple steps to maintain the fellowship that I wanted all along, then everything will be fine.”

After all, God wanted to make it clear that he loved his chosen people in a special way. And if he made it clear how he wanted them to live in response to his love, then they would naturally want to please him, and they would live just exactly how he wanted them to live. Right?

And what was this system of rules? It was very simple. In order to repair the damage that Adam caused to all of creation, and in order to spend an eternity in heaven with God, YOU HAD TO BE PERFECT! That’s all there was to it! [SEE NOTE #5]

“But,” you exclaim, “NO ONE is perfect!” And you are exactly right. But God had a PLAN for that, too. So stop interrupting!

As I was saying, the people exercised their self-will anyway. Obedience became limited to certain actions God demanded and the love of God was all but ignored. They cut some corners. They bent some rules. Other rules they just plain broke. The rules about a blood sacrifice became so twisted that many people lived like they wanted to live and counted on those sacrifices to make them acceptable in God’s eyes anyway. It got so bad that they had a group of people, a sort of religious police force they called the Pharisees, whose primary function was to wander around and watch for people ignoring or breaking the rules. In other words, the people just didn’t measure up to the simple rules that God wanted for them. Jesus himself pointed out the problem of that time: the Pharisees may have been the most OBEDIENT of the people, but even they weren’t good enough to spend eternity in heaven with God.

For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the Law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 5:20, NIV]

God’s spiritual rules were put in place to show people how to be righteous, how to be in right standing before God. But instead, the people slid into a sort of mindless and soulless obedience of the rules. And they just plain forgot about loving God.

But God was waiting for just the right time to open the next part of his PLAN. This part involved a Perfect Sacrifice, a sacrifice that didn’t just cover up the sins of the people who were committed since the last sacrifice. This was a Perfect Sacrifice that paid for all sins, that actually MADE RIGHTEOUS the people who had sinned. This Perfect Sacrifice would change the people back into what mankind started out to be – perfect and without sin.

This Perfect Sacrifice MADE the people perfect in God’s eyes. [SEE NOTE #6]

But this Perfect Sacrifice was going to be the most PAINFUL sacrifice in all eternity. A Perfect Sacrifice was going to take more than just a lamb without blemish. It would take a Lamb that was, well, PERFECT!   This Perfect Sacrifice would take nothing less than the sinless Son of God.

This blood sacrifice that would be a perfect and eternal sacrifice, a sacrifice that would not need to be repeated at feast after feast, that would NEVER need to be repeated again – EVER – would have to be Jesus.

And this Perfect Sacrifice wouldn’t just COVER UP sin, but actually PAY the penalty required, the blood sacrifice required, for sins so those same sins could be forgiven.

FORGIVEN! You see, forgiven is the flip side of perfect. Forgiven is where God no longer sees your sins. You have heard it said, “Love is blind!” This is how God turns FORGIVEN into something practical:

When you have been forgiven and God looks at you, he doesn’t see your sins.

When you have been forgiven and God looks at you, he sees a sinless and a righteous and a PERFECT person.

When you have been forgiven and God looks at you, he sees Jesus!

And because of that, God can invite you into his heaven for eternity.

And what is the catch? All you have to do is accept that Perfect Sacrifice as the one and only sacrifice necessary for your sins. Nothing else is necessary and nothing else is allowed. Believe it and accept it. Of course, you can’t really believe it and keep on living the way you had been living. But that was part of God’s PLAN, too. If you truly believe this Perfect Sacrifice can deal with sin in a way that mankind cannot deal with it, and if you accept this Perfect Sacrifice to pay for the all of the sins you personally have committed over your life, then God agrees to overlook your sins, agrees to let love blind him concerning your sins, and he will invite you to spend eternity with him in heaven after you die.

That’s all there was to it.

Perhaps there is one more issue we should address.

Technically, hell is not eternal.

Yes, I know, everyone says it is. If you have heard any sermons on the issue, I suspect the preacher told you that hell was eternal. But hell is a holding place until the Second Coming of Jesus and his Final Judgment. Then Satan and demons and hell and all the people who rejected Jesus will be thrown into what the Bible calls the “lake of fire,” and God will take the rest of home to Heaven with him.

And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. [Revelation 20:10-15, NASB]

In all of Scripture, there are only two eternal places; two places where everything that was created in Genesis will remain forever; two places where created beings can spend eternity. One is heaven, and one is the lake of fire. And make no mistake about it: you will be in one place or the other for all eternity. One place we will have love and joy and excitement for all eternity. The other place “they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”

So let’s ask the question again:

DOES GOD SEND PEOPLE TO SPEND AN ETERNITY OF PUNISHMENT IN HELL?

And this is God’s answer:

I gave mankind one simple rule. You blew it!

Then I gave you ten simple rules. You blew it!

Then I gave you detailed rules so clear that even an idiot studying to be a moron could follow them. You blew it!

Then I gave you a system of sacrifices that would cover all your sins committed since the last sacrifice just to show you how serious this sin business really is, so you could make sure you were in right standing before God. You still blew it!

I gave my own Perfect Son as a once and for all sacrifice with only one requirement: that you believe it and accept by faith that this Perfect Sacrifice will pay the penalty for all of your sin and rebellion. And you blew it once again!

I have done EVERYTHING I CAN FOR YOU! All you have to do is make a choice.

And you still blow it!

Yet you blame me! You claim I SEND people to hell for an eternity because of some silly mistakes on their part.

SORRY, MAN! IT’S YOUR CHOICE! I say again: IT’S YOUR CHOICE! I DON’T SEND ANYONE TO HELL!

You can choose to put your faith in my Perfect Sacrifice as payment for your sins, and stop depending on your own efforts and your own goodness for that payment, and you can spend an eternity in heaven with me.

Or you can choose to go your own way.

In other words, it is my way or the Highway to Hell!

BUT NO ONE GOES TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO GO TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT! SO DON’T BLAME ME!

 This is God’s answer to the question. So let me ask, are you going to blow it, too?


 

NOTE #1:

The Old Testament uses several Hebrew words that apparently mean what we now call HELL. The subject is sort of “danced around” with many vague comments that seem to MEAN hell. SHEOL and GAHENNA are the most commonly used Hebrew words before the time of Jesus. By the time the New Testament writers came along, the Greek word HADES had become the standard or “catch-all” word, from which we derive our English word hell. But Old Testament or New Testament, Hebrew words or Greek, hell ALWAYS signified a place you REALLY DID NOT WANT TO GO!

The wicked return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God. [Psalm 9:17, NIV]

Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices; my body also will rest secure, because you will not abandon me to Sheol, nor will you let your Holy One see decay. [Psalm 16:9-10, NIV]

The cords of death entangle me, the anguish of Sheol came upon me; I was overcome by trouble and sorrow. [Psalm 116:3, NIV]

In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus at his side. [Luke 16:23, NIV]


NOTE #2:

God needs no explanation, but Angelic Beings might need a few words. This is a general term for created beings who have supernatural powers and will live from their creation until “eternity future.” Within this general term is a whole host of different categories. We have absolutely no clue as to how many different categories there are, or the numbers in each category, but some Scriptures seem to suggest thousands of each exist. Among the Angelic Beings in Scripture are angels, cherubim, seraphim, military forces, and even a group called council members. No, don’t ask me to explain any of these beings, but examples in Scripture include:

So the Lord banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life. [Genesis 3:23-24, NIV]

Jacob left Beersheba and set out for Haraan. When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. [Genesis 28:10-12, NIV]

God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the “gods.” [Psalm 82:12, NIV]

For who in the skies above can compare with the Lord? Who is like the Lord among the heavenly beings? In the council of the holy ones God is greatly feared; he is more awesome than all who surround him. [Psalm 89:6-7, NIV]

But which of them has stood in the council of the Lord to see or to hear his word? [Jeremiah 23:18, NIV]

 Did you listen in on God’s council? [Job 15:8, NIV]

Micaiah continued, “Therefore, hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the host of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left. And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramath Giliad and going to his death there?’ One suggested this and another suggested that. Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’ ‘By what means?’ the Lord asked. ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said. ‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.’”     [I Kings 22:19-22, NIV]

Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?” “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell face down to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord have for his servant?” The commander of the Lord’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so. [Joshua 5:13-15, NIV]

I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way. [Ephesians 1:18-23, NIV]


NOTE #3:

Lucifer was a real bigwig in the angelic realm; so big he had his own nickname: Morning Star. He was so powerful he believed that he only needed a little more and he would be equal to God. So he gathered a large group of his fellow angels and staged a rebellion.

Lucifer lost and became renamed as Satan, and he and one-third of the angels, those who sided with him, were tossed out of heaven, because of God’s absolute rule that sin and rebellion cannot abide in heaven.

And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down – that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. [Revelation 12:7-9, NIV]

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. [Isaiah 14:12-15, NIV]


NOTE #4

Again, God created heaven so that he had someplace eternal where he could spend the rest of eternity with the angelic beings and the human beings he had created. When Satan and his followers lost his rebellion, they were thrown out of heaven. When Adam and Eve rebelled, mankind became infected with sin, and it was passed down from one generation to another. Before Adam and Eve disobeyed, all mankind was destined to spend eternity with God in heaven. AFTER Adam and Eve disobeyed, only people who individually chose to have God deal with their sin and who chose to remain in fellowship with God would be allowed in heaven. The rest would be allowed to pursue their choice – apart from God.

For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment . . . then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment. [II Peter 4 and 9, NIV]

And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone’s name was not found in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. [Revelation 20:7-15, NIV]


NOTE #5

Remember that heaven was for God to spend the rest of eternity with mankind, AND that no sin or rebellion was to be allowed in heaven. Satan and his angels rebelled and were thrown out of heaven. So for any man or woman to be invited to heaven, that man or woman had to be without sin, had to be perfect. Heaven has a seal around it that will not allow sin to pass through.

Follow peace with all men, and be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. [Hebrews 12:14, NIV]

May he strengthen your hearts so that you will be blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.  [I Thessalonians 3:13, NIV]

For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. [Ephesians 1:4, NIV]

But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” [I Peter 4:15-16, NIV]


NOTE #6

You say, and I agree, that no man is PERFECT. Yet God REQUIRES us to be perfect if we are to go to heaven. But the flip side of PERFECT is FORGIVEN, and it is just as good in God’s eyes. And God offers forgiveness to all people, and that forgiveness is ours if we choose it. God is doing his part to reconcile a relationship that was originally intended to be eternal, but has been broken.

All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ, and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself through Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. [II Corinthians 3:18-19, NIV]

He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for our sins but also for the sins of the whole world. [I John 2:2, NIV]

Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation – if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the Gospel.    [Colossians 1:21-23, NIV]

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.  Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you. [Romans 8:1-11, NIV

What I believe

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What I Believe

By TNSr5r@unseen.is

 

Introduction

This document exists because I wanted to write these things down, and for no other reason. I am not attempting to claim, or even suggest, that those with opposing views are wrong. I truly do not care if you are wrong, and I truly do not care if you believe I am wrong. I go through this exercise only because some have suggested it would be a benefit TO ME.

And please, don’t misunderstand me. I am not being arrogant. Arrogance would claim that I am right and everyone else is wrong. And arrogance would probably demand that everyone else agree with me. This is not at all what I am doing here. In fact, just the opposite. I don’t require anyone to agree with me, nor do I require myself to agree with anyone else. And that makes me free, perhaps more free than you.

I hesitate compiling this document at all, not because I don’t want to go through the potentially excruciating process of delineating my beliefs and views, but because it will make it at least somewhat easier for people to place me in a box and give me a label rather than deal with me as an individual. And most people are far more comfortable dealing with those whom they can put in a box with a label and trust that most of the time that individual will stay within that box and act and react as expected. Any box and label that can more easily be applied to me as a result of this document would be repugnant to me. After all, anyone who would take the time to write down their beliefs certainly must be inflexible and judgmental, right?

Yet, I really conduct this possibly frustrating exercise more because of those who pride themselves on being open-minded and accepting of others. There is a large segment of America who is usually liberal in political views and who is committed to the philosophy that there is very little (and maybe nothing) that is “right” and “wrong” and a whole lot of things (and maybe all things) that are gray. Opinions may vary between individuals, they believe, but no one has the right to tell another that his/her opinion is wrong. It is often claimed by this large group that all opinions are equally correct, equally valid, and equally important.

I find that almost every individual within this group that I have met over the years falls into one of two categories.

The first category, or segment, is composed of very caring people and they just don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. So facts and objectivity are far less important, and quite easily discarded, when engaged in any discussions about anything deemed important. They tend to believe that it is far more important to communicate acceptance and approval and avoid communicating rejection than it is to resolve what is true. These are some of the most caring people I have ever known. These people are more motivated by heart issues than they are by facts.

The other, and perhaps far larger, segment of this group takes the position that all things are gray because there are no absolutes. There is nothing, they believe, that can be established as universally true or universally false. As a result, there is nothing that can be established as more or less accurate and, therefore, all opinions are equally accurate (or inaccurate) guesses about indiscernible and unverifiable “facts.” These people are more motivated by philosophical issues than they are by facts.

These two groups have totally different purposes behind taking the exact same stance. But regardless of the purpose, both groups believe themselves to be more open-minded and accepting of others than people who claim that two disparate views cannot be equally correct and equally valid. In other words, they think they are open-minded because they tell no one they are wrong.

But are they really open-minded and accepting?

I contend not.

Why do I say that? Because if all opinions are equal and all opinions must be accepted without correction or judgment or condemnation, then they could never claim that my opinion is wrong. Specifically, if I were to claim my view is right in front of one of these open-minded and accepting individuals, they always, and I mean always, get upset and tell me I am wrong to claim that I am right. Yet, one wonders, if they claim that all opinions are equally correct and all opinions are equally valid, then what business do they have in telling me I am wrong?

In other words, they view my opinion as equally correct and equally valid as long as I embrace the belief that every opinion is equally correct and equally valid. But as soon as I claim that any specific belief is correct (or incorrect), especially any belief that can be construed as conservative, then they make the claim that the conservative belief is wrong.

Why is it that being open-minded and inclusive ALWAYS requires me to accept as valid your view but it never requires you to accept as valid my view?

So, for those who are caring and open-minded and accepting and understanding, I ask that you extend to me the same grace you would demand of me – leave me to my own view without trying to tell me that I cannot have that view. Only then can you benefit from reviewing this document. If you cannot extend to me the same grace that you demand of me, then it would probably be best if you did not read this document at all. Not because I will in any way be telling you that you are wrong or cannot have your own view, but because in reading this you will violate your own belief about every opinion being equally valid and equally important.

And I don’t want you to have any trouble sleeping tonight because you have just become disillusioned by discovering that you are a hypocrite.

One more thing.

The fact that I state my views does not mean that all other views in disagreement with mine are wrong. It could mean that, but I cannot possibly know that. My view on any given issue may be the result of many hours of thought, prayer, study, more prayer, more study, and more thought, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is the only correct view. Unless I claim omniscience, I must always admit my limitations.

I cannot know all things, so it is always possible that there are facts outside my understanding or even awareness that, if I knew and understood them, would change my view.

This is why there can be no atheist. [Think about it…] My view will almost certainly be a considered position because of my very character and nature, but I must always be aware of and even admit that I may learn something today that would render my view inaccurate. So, no matter what you think you are hearing when reading this document, one thing you are not hearing is the claim that all who disagree with me are wrong. It is not in my heart and will never be in my words.

That having been said, I will never shy away from taking the responsibility of having a view. For any who look to me for input, I am constrained to offer only researched and well-thought input. I will never offer a “lite beer” opinion. If it is only opinion, I will always label it as such and seldom offer it. If I offer a view, I strive to give chapter and verse as to how I came to that conclusion and why.

To offer an opinion that is not researched and well-considered does no service to anyone other than the one expressing it. It is a selfish act. Its only value in this world is how it makes you feel when you tell it, or how it makes you feel when others express appreciation to you for sharing it. But it accomplishes absolutely nothing. Since the listener cannot learn anything of substance from the unresearched and undocumented opinion, that very opinion cannot enhance the listener at all. It offers the listener absolutely nothing of value. If there is no fact behind it, but only claims that are made in shades of gray, then it has value only to the one holding the opinion. If, on the other hand, you have research and fact and thought behind your view, then it just might have value to others. At least, that is my opinion…

Take sides! Have a view! The one who takes sides and has a view might sometimes be wrong. But the one who never takes sides and never has a view will always be wrong.

 

Issues

Absolutes

There ARE absolutes.

There IS a right and wrong. These terms apply to moral and spiritual issues. For me, moral issues are resolved by the Bible and by my application to my life of the principles I learn in the Bible. I cannot believe the Bible is Truth and at the same time accept differing religious views as right. This has absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with the Bible. If I take a specific moral or religious stance, it is because the Bible takes that particular moral or religious stance – it is not at all because I am close-minded and judgmental. The Bible claims it is, by itself and all alone, TRUTH. If you don’t like that, you have a problem with the Bible, not with me. So don’t ever ask me, “Who are you to judge?” when we are discussing right and wrong. If you ask me that question, I will almost certainly inform you that I am not judging anyone or anything – I am merely passing along how God has already judged you. When it comes to issues explained in the Bible, I don’t have to judge. It is God who has already done the judging, and I am merely repeating his proclamations.

And please note that no one who holds their religious views strongly can allow for any other religious views to be right. Only those who have shallow beliefs (or no religious beliefs at all) can allow for other religious views to be equally right.

On the other hand, most subjective choices fall into the category of individual taste or personal preference. These subjective choices usually do not fall under any moral, or right versus wrong, criteria. There is no right about blue versus red; there is no wrong about blonde versus brunette. There is no exclusive and universal claim to “BEST TRUCK” for Ford or Chevrolet or GMC.

And subjective choices are often irreconcilable. You might like New York City and I might not. No amount of fact concerning New York City is likely to change either your view or mine. But there is something inherently wrong about either one of us concluding that all New Yorkers are rude and belligerent with the personality of an angry pit bull (or some other equally generalized claim), and then treating them all in a manner consistent with that conclusion.

But there IS an accurate and inaccurate. These terms usually apply to non-moral issues. It is probable that no one can learn and understand everything there is to learn and understand about a particular concept or theory or fact, thereby making each and every other view incomplete and somewhat inaccurate. But if there is an absolutely true and accurate item or concept that we can look at, then your view and my view can be judged. Almost always, your description of New York City will be different from my description. But we can know which description is more accurate because we can see and touch and visit the REAL New York City. Your description of gravity may be more researched and mathematical than mine, and we can know which view of gravity is more accurate simply by observing and measuring gravity itself. Your view of American history may be more accurate than mine because there are original documents and books to review and you have studied them more than I have. So don’t ever ask me, “Who are you to judge?” when we are discussing reality and fact. When it comes to issues that can be observed in reality, this is a question usually based in ignorance, and usually serves to prove my point.

 

Religion

I believe that all religions, Catholic or Protestant or Muslim or Jew or anything else, are nothing more than mankind’s attempt to get to God or to please God or maybe just to describe God. The bigger the religion, the more requirements and restrictions are placed on our opportunities to get to God and to please God, and almost all these requirements and restrictions are placed on people NOT by God but by spiritual leaders.

On the other hand, I believe that Jesus is God’s attempt to reach mankind.

I believe that the God of the Bible is the One True God, and that He has described Himself in the Bible. All other views of God in other religious writings and by other religious leaders are interpretations or incomplete representations or even pollutions of the One True God. If you have a problem with this, your problem is NOT with me – your problem is with the Bible.

And ALWAYS beware of spiritual leaders who claim that God has given them a new truth!

I believe that the Bible (both the Old and New Testaments) interprets itself. The Bible leaves nothing unexplained that is expressed in that Book as being important for us to know. (The Bible never addresses how many angels can fit on the head of a pin, so that is not an issue that is important to God or that God expects us to know.) If you believe that there are many interpretations of these important views or issues, then I believe you have not studied the Bible enough, or at all. And without exception, I have challenged each and every person who has made this claim to me to study the Bible with me and point out several of the many interpretations to me. Without exception, each and every person who told me that has declined to spend any time with me looking at the Bible itself. If you have a problem with this, your problem is NOT with me – your problem is with your own laziness.

I believe that the central message of the Bible is not a religion, with structures and belief systems and philosophical implications, but a relationship between the Creator of the Universe, the One True God, on the one hand, and on the other hand, His prized creation, mankind. His prized creation is not the planet, not all things, not all living things, not all animals, but mankind. Those who have responded to Him in the manner of His choosing have that relationship, and those who have responded in any other manner, or have not responded at all, do not have that relationship. If you have a problem with this, your problem is NOT with me – your problem is with the Bible.

I believe there are only two ways to get to Heaven. One way is to be perfect, and 2,000 years ago we nailed to a cross the last one who was perfect. The other is to be forgiven. God does not grade on a curve. He has little concern as to whether or not you are better or worse than your neighbor or any other individual. He is concerned with your heart attitude toward him. God has one condition as to his forgiveness, and that is a repentant heart. If you have a problem with this, your problem is NOT with me – your problem is with the God of the Bible.

God is not in all things, nor is he in all people, nor is he in all experiences, nor is he in all beliefs. Mankind was created in the image of God, and that image was quickly polluted and deformed by rejecting God. But the “image” of God has little to do with the “dwelling” of God. God dwells in those who have received him in the manner of HIS choosing and does not dwell in those who have not received him in the manner of HIS choosing. This is the central message, the “gospel”, of the New Testament. If you have a problem with this, your problem is NOT with me – your problem is with God.

I do not believe that individuals are predestined for heaven or for hell. But I believe the process or mechanism by which individuals make it to heaven is predestined from the foundations of this world. The life, death and resurrection of Jesus is the predestined path to heaven, and those who accept this path and follow this path are predestined to be like Jesus – more and more so as time passes.

I do not believe that the Bible, Old or New Testament, teaches tithing as most preachers present it. I believe the Old Testament teaches “tithes and offerings” which, if added up, can equal as much as 40% of our assets, and not 10% of our paychecks. I believe the New Testament teaches “giving until it hurts” as the minimum, with examples including but not limited to Jesus giving his life, and the widow who gave everything she had. Most people use “tithe” to mean they get to keep 90% of their net paychecks, which is a selfish and ungodly interpretation, and not based on anything in the Bible.

Those who have responded to Him in the manner of His choosing have received special gifts and abilities with which to accomplish His purposes in their lives. One of my gifts is teaching. Why else would I take the time to write all these things down?

 

Politics

The united States of America (not a typo) is a unique political experiment in all of history. The men who put together certain views and principles and wrote them into our Founding Documents all believed that God played a serious and important role in the founding of this Great Nation. They may have had some minor differences in their opinions of who and what God really is, but they all believed God played a serious and important role in the founding of this Great Nation. Therefore, what God created must be preserved. Yes, I believe it is our moral and spiritual duty to God to preserve the United States of America as God helped to create it, and not as liberal socialists today want it to be!

The Founding Fathers did not create a democracy. Our Constitution did not create a democracy. America was never intended to be a democracy. Those around you, friends or teachers or media talking heads or politicians, who refer to America as a democracy are either deceived themselves or are intentionally deceiving you. The Founding Fathers expressly rejected a democracy in their discussions and in their writings. The Constitution itself requires that America be a republic form of government. Any other structure or form of government is a violation of the Constitution, and I believe that those currently in our government who are committed to creating a socialistic democracy are guilty of treason; and at the very least are guilty of fomenting revolution. And those in the government and in the media and in our educational institutions who are seemingly committed to moving America into a socialist democracy are traitors to the Constitution and enemies of the State. You cannot claim to believe in our Constitution while, at the same time, be engaged in speech or actions or legislation designed to violate or overturn that Constitution.

I believe that there is no such thing as “separation of church and State” as most people perceive or define it. When Benjamin Franklin spoke of the “wall of separation between church and state, he meant nothing like what political pontiffs mean today. The federal government has absolutely no authority or jurisdiction to tell any State or any individual what they can and cannot do in the arena of religious expression, especially outside the federal territories and within the several States. The ONLY restrictions in the Constitution on religious issues or religious expression are directed at the federal government and NOT at the several States or We The People. The Constitution states that “Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” First, that restriction applies ONLY TO CONGRESS and NOT to the several States or We The People. Second, no religious view present in America or in this world can possibly be an establishment of religion because it already exists. Third, Congress (and possibly that includes the entire federal government) has absolutely no authority or jurisdiction to interfere with or deny my religious views and expressions. Or anyone else’s religious views or expressions. Or any State or local government’s views or expressions. The restriction here, according to all the Founding Fathers who wrote on the issue, is creating a federal religion – a State-endorsed church – the restriction is not disallowing States the option of having a religious expression on public property. Fourth, virtually every law passed by Congress involving religion in America restricts or prohibits religious expression within the several States, in DIRECT VIOLATION of the Constitution. These laws should be declared as unconstitutional and overthrown by We The People. And by “overthrown” I mean to be ignored and not obeyed until the federal government formally rescinds these traitorous laws which are violative of our Constitution and far beyond the powers granted to the government by it.

The Constitution For the united States of America (not a typo) is the one document that all Americans, especially our politicians and judges, must accept as the sole authority behind America. It is not the President nor the Congress nor the Courts that is the authority. The President and the Congress and the Courts were all CREATED by the Constitution and therefore can have no authority over it. It is ONLY We The People who have any authority over the Constitution, and all we can do is obey it, modify it by the process dictated in the Constitution, or abolish it and write a whole new one, as stated by our Declaration of Independence. No one has the authority or the option to ignore the Constitution, as our Congress and our Presidents have demanded and expected and done for so many years.

All “officers” in all branches of our government (elected or appointed) are required to take an oath of office. All are sworn to uphold and protect our Constitution. Those who attempt to pass laws (Congress) or attempt to create Executive Orders (Presidents) or attempt to twist the Constitution (judges) into their own opinions of what they believe it should say are in violation of their Oaths of Office, and should be immediately dismissed without any benefits. Direct words or actions in violation of the principles in our Constitution by our paid public servants are nothing more than acts of insurrection or treason. I believe that public trials and public flogging and public hangings are the best manner for dealing with treasonous public officials, federal or State.

I believe that at least half of federal spending and federal programs are totally outside of the limits on placed government by our Constitution and, therefore, these programs and expenditures have no business existing on a federal level. I believe that the federal government loses all its authority and powers when it exceeds and violates the clear and explicit limitations written in the Constitution. I believe we have had an unconstitutional federal government since at least 1933, and possibly since Abraham Lincoln threw out the Constitution and declared war on the American people.

I believe that when America again has a Constitutional federal government, the trillions of federal dollars and the thousands of federal programs that would be cancelled can be, if deemed important enough, taken up by the various States, assuming the States and the people in those States WANT to continue them, just as the 10th Amendment to the federal Constitution calls for. The problem is not the program or the expenditures, nor those receiving the benefits of those programs or expenditures, but the fact that the federal government is restricted by the Constitution from being engaged in those programs or expenditures at all. Those rights and responsibilities lawfully belong ONLY to the several States and to We The People, according to the Constitution.

I believe the traditional views of American politics, separated into liberal and conservative, miss the point entirely. I believe that there is a third category which is almost always labeled “extreme” by both liberals and conservatives – that of being Constitutional. As clarification of what I mean, let us take issue of healthcare. A Liberal would create a large federal bureaucracy to oversee the activities and programs, allowing the States to perform some functions, but pretty much run things from Washington, DC, much like Hillary Clinton tried about 15 years ago, and Barack Obama has recently accomplished. A Conservative would create a small federal bureaucracy to monitor things and allow the States to perform the majority of functions and fill the majority of responsibilities. And a Constitutionalist would say, “The Constitution gives the federal government absolutely no authority or jurisdiction over healthcare at all. Why are they even debating the issue?” BOTH Liberals and Conservatives can be unconstitutional in their perspectives, and usually are.

I believe the “general welfare” clause of our federal Constitution has been treasonously polluted into a socialistic belief never intended, in fact specifically disallowed, by our Founding Fathers. The “general welfare” clause of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution is NOT a grant of power but a restriction placed on the use or expenditure of federal tax revenues. The grant of power in that clause is the power to tax, with the restriction being the expenditure of those tax revenues. The grants of power to the government, being specific and limited, are clearly stated in the Constitution. Any legislation based on a power not explicitly granted the federal government in the Constitution is an attempt to overthrow the government created by that Constitution, and an act of treason.

I believe that huge omnibus legislative bills three and four and five inches thick, especially those passed without extensive public examination and debate BEFORE a vote, is a violation of the Oaths of Office sworn to by our elected representatives, and demands the immediate removal from office of those who voted to pass that legislation. And those removed from office by this violation of their Oaths of Office should result in the immediate termination of ALL federal benefits. It is an embarrassment for members of Congress to vote for a bill they have not read, and then complain they were misled when people or groups point out the obvious egregious portions of the bill. Any member of Congress who discovers unacceptable portions of a bill AFTER he/she has voted for that bill and then complains about it should be impeached. Congress approves these huge “omnibus” bills for the specific purpose of allowing plausible deniability when an individual or group points out unacceptable portions of the bill after it is approved. We The People should NEVER participate in this intentional deception.

I believe that any elected representative who votes on any legislative act, yea or nay, without first reading it personally, is in violation of his or her Oath of Office, and that “uninformed” vote should result in his or her immediate removal from office with immediate termination of all federal benefits.

I believe that all benefits of any federal office should never exceed the benefits available to the typical American. I believe that Congress should NOT have a separate health program but should have to purchase commercially available health insurance policies. I believe that Congress should NOT have a separate retirement program, but should be subject to Social Security like all Americans. The current Congressional retirement program is a travesty, and should be terminated immediately.

I believe that Congress should immediately limit itself to ONLY those powers expressly delegated to it by the federal Constitution, and should eliminate in a timely manner all benefits and programs not expressly delegated to Congress by the federal Constitution. I believe that Congress and the President should obey the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution in any and all legislative and executive activities. I believe that any and all elected federal representatives who attempts to draft, put forth, vote for, or support any legislative or executive efforts not consistent with ALL of the Constitution, and in particular the Ninth and Tenth Amendments of the federal Constitution, should be immediately put out to pasture, removed from office with immediate termination of all federal benefits.

Conclusion

And I believe that about does it. If you have a problem with this document, or any part of it, please feel free to contact me and express your problem. And I will be happy to tell you what you can do about it.

Gay Marriage

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So-Called Gay Marriage

By TNSr5r, October, 2014

 

I am going to address all the recent stories on television, on Facebook, and all over the Internet concerning so-called gay marriage. But first, I need to explain why I used the phrase “so-called gay marriage.” I believe that there is no such thing as “gay marriage,” and I am about to tell you why.

I also need to explain that I am not judging homosexuals nor am I saying that they do not have a right to marry. I am merely presenting the legal issues involved, and some of the court cases relative to the topic.

In addition, I cannot write this without also declaring that I am a conservative Christian. By that I mean that I follow the claims of Christ and the teachings of his followers as is contained in the Bible. I believe that, contrary to what many people believe and some teach, the Bible does not condemn homosexuals to hell any more than it condemns liars and cheats and thieves to hell. The Bible does, however, condemn all homosexual activities, just like it does lying and cheating and stealing. In saying this, I realize that many would accuse me of judging, another activity that is condemned in the Bible. But there they would be wrong. I am not judging when I refer to teachings in the Bible; I am merely passing on what God has already decided and announced. And it is clear in Scripture that God has condemned all homosexual activities in the strongest words possible. If you have a problem with me saying this, your problem is not with me – your problem is with God.

I believe that historically, spiritually, and legally, marriage is between a man and a woman. Therefore, any so-called marriage outside of that is not a marriage at all.

However, what I believe and what the spiritual leaders in the Bible say about homosexuality is totally outside the topic and content of this document. I have written this document to present the legal issues and some of the court cases that involve what many describe as gay marriage, not to criticize homosexuals or condemn so-called gay marriage.

There has been a lot of recent discussion on the recent US Supreme Court decision to NOT hear some lower court federal cases on so-called gay marriage. Some people claim this was a victory for gay marriages and the homosexual political agenda. Others say this was a setback for gay marriage because the Supreme Court has refused to issue a binding decision on gay marriage that would affect all 50 States.

I say they are both wrong.

I say the Constitution gives the federal government absolutely no authority or jurisdiction over marriage, and consequently the Supreme Court simply cannot render a definition of marriage that would or would not include so-called gay marriage, except to acknowledge the definition already in established by We The People.

There are quite a number of US Supreme Court cases that address so-called gay marriages. But the Supreme Court has been quite consistent in its decisions, so I will address only a few of these cases in this document.

Perhaps a short word on the authority and jurisdiction of the Supreme Court is in order here, since so few Americans understand our Constitution and the laws passed under its authority. Please accept my apologies to the people who actually understand these issues – this will be redundant for you. But most Americans do not understand these issues, and this includes most American politicians.

And it is essential that we all have a clear and accurate understanding of the legal issues involved in this discussion, and also of the role of the federal government concerning these issues, or we will misunderstand the drama that is unfolding in our federal courts concerning so-called gay marriages, and the future of that drama.

The Constitution created America as a nation. It’s true that its physical existence was established by the eight long and horrible years of war between the Colonies here on the continent that was called America and the most powerful nation on the planet at that time. We fought, we won, and then we had to define who and what we were. So we wrote the Great Document that established exactly who and what we were as a nation. The Constitution created the central government, its structure and form, and especially its limitations. In doing so, the Constitution created a Republic.

Most of us hear all the time that America is a Democracy. This is a destructive lie intentionally propagated by our politicians and our educational institutions for wrong purposes that I will not get into here. Suffice it to say that the Constitution explicitly refers to America as a Republic, and NOT as a Democracy.

In simple terms, a Democracy is run on popular opinion; whatever the majority of the people want on an issue is what the government must provide on that issue. More simply, Benjamin Franklin defined a Democracy as “three wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.” In several publications written and printed by the government in the first half of the 1900s, Democracy was described as “mob rule.” This was before our government began its move away from a Constitutional Republic and toward a socialistic Democracy.

Taken from the American Military Training Manual, 1928:

DEMOCRACY: a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in a mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic, negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.

On the other hand, a Republic is run on LAWS. If 100% of the people want a particular event or outcome, but it is not allowed by law, then that event or outcome cannot and does not happen. This is often proclaimed by the phrase “the rule of law.” A Republic has the rule of law – a Democracy cannot.

So, the Constitution created a Republic with three branches. And it created a specific set of responsibilities and powers for each of the three branches within that Republic. None of the three branches could legislate or control or even debate anything that was not explicitly delegated to that branch. This principle was underscored by the words of the Tenth Amendment to that Constitution, where the Founding Fathers put into clear and certain words that any power not specifically granted to one of the three branches of the federal government was specifically withheld from all the branches of the federal government because it belonged to the States or to We The People.

As I said, the Constitution created three branches of government: the Executive Branch (which included the president as Chief Executive Officer), the Legislative Branch (which included the authority to craft and pass laws), and the Judicial Branch (which included authority to apply those laws when circumstances made the laws confusing). To each of these three branches of government was delegated explicit responsibilities, along with the powers to carry out those responsibilities. And all three branches were explicitly required in writing to remain within their responsibilities – if they operated outside their responsibilities, those actions were considered renegade and outside the limits of, and in violation of, the Constitution for the United States of America.

Because of the Constitution, federal courts are courts of limited jurisdiction. A federal court must have jurisdiction over the subject matter involved (called “subject matter jurisdiction”), and over the persons involved (called “persona jurisdiction”), in a legal action before there can be a case brought before that particular federal court. This is why one of the first issues addressed in the paperwork of all cases filed in all federal courts is the issue of jurisdiction. All the way up to the Supreme Court, federal courts are courts of limited jurisdiction.

The federal courts had the responsibility to resolve whether or not a particular federal Statute applied in a specific set of circumstances, as well as exactly how the laws applied in those circumstances, along with the penalties for violating those laws. The Supreme Court had the ultimate authority on any and all issues that were still in conflict after the Lower Courts rendered their decisions. If the courts in several districts handed down different decisions on the same issue, then the Supreme Court might get involved to resolve “the truth” on that issue. But if the federal districts were handing down similar decisions, the Supreme Court will generally not accept an appeal from those courts. And the Supreme Court was not required by the Constitution to hear any and all issues. The Court had the option to pick and choose the cases it would decide or judge based on the conflicts behind those cases and the impact of them. So the Supreme Court had jurisdiction only over specific cases on specific issues for specific reasons. And many would claim the most important issue is where the case pivoted on the violation of a federal statute that exceeded the authority of the federal government.

A perfect example of a Statute going outside of authority and improperly stepping on the rights associated with marriage came from Connecticut. That State passed a criminal statute in the early 1960’s making it illegal for a married couple to use any kind of contraceptives. The case that made its way through the courts challenging the statute was Grizwold v. Connecticut (1965). The statute was well-written and clear enough, and it required a State policing agency to enforce the statute. And in 1965, that statute was overturned by the US Supreme Court on the interesting grounds that the State, “having authorized marriage, was without power to intrude upon the right of privacy inherent in the marital relationship.” Justice Douglas, author of the majority opinion, wrote that this criminal statute “operates directly on an intimate relation of husband and wife,” and that the very idea of its enforcement by the invasion of “the sacred precincts of marital bedrooms for telltale signs of the use of contraceptives is repulsive to the notions of privacy surrounding the marriage relationship.” This was the first US Supreme Court case concerning marriage and the limits placed on marriage that I have found, and it applied to a specific limitation placed by a specific statute in a specific State. The legal reasoning of the Supreme Court was the FACT that the State had no authority over the marriage bedroom.

The reasoning in Grizwold was carried over to the cases challenging the Defense of Marriage Act forty years later, which would overturn DOMA based on several issues, especially the government’s lack of authority over the bedroom. The government would have to invade the bedroom in order to enforce DOMA, and the Supreme Court had already ruled that it had no such authority.

Another State case, this one concerning so-called gay marriage, soon captured national attention. The case was Baker v. Nelson (1972), where a gay couple was attempting to force the State of Minnesota to issue a marriage license to them. The gay couple’s approach was to challenge the Minnesota law specifically because it prohibited the granting of marriage licenses to gay couples on the basis that Minnesota believed only heterosexual couples could marry in that State. The couple alleged that discrimination based on sexual preference was unlawful. Further, the couple claimed that the State statute forbidding gay marriage was unconstitutional because they claimed they had a Constitutional right to right to marry, and to refuse them a marriage license was to deny them their Constitutional rights. The couple lost in the lower court and the appeals court, and appealed to the Minnesota Supreme Court. The Minnesota Supreme Court declared them to be wrong, and affirmed the lower State courts in their denial of so-called gay marriage licenses. The couple appealed to the US Supreme Court, hoping to have the Minnesota decision overturned. The US Supreme Court found that the couple made “the assertion that the right to marry without regard to the sex of the parties is a fundamental right of all persons and that restricting marriage to only couples of the opposite sex is irrational and invidiously discriminatory. We are not independently persuaded by these contentions and do not find support for them in any decisions of the United States Supreme Court. The institution of marriage as a union of man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis.”

In declaring the “fundamental right” and the “natural law” status of marriage, and in declaring that there is no inherent protection of marriage or the right to GET married in the Constitution, the US Supreme Court continued to hold that the issue was outside the “subject matter jurisdiction” of the Supreme Court. If marriage or the option to GET married was a right granted by the United States Constitution, or by federal statute, then the Congress could modify that right and the Supreme Court could hear cases concerning the violation of that right. Absent any explicit inclusion in federal statute or in the Constitution, the Supreme Court had no jurisdiction over marriage, and no authority to hear the case, much less render a decision on the issue of marriage.

A “fundamental right” and an issue of “natural law” was beyond the authority and jurisdiction inherent in statutory law, and the Supreme Court could not overturn what it considered “natural law.”

In Baker, the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled that a State statute protecting the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman did not violate the U.S. Constitution: “The institution of marriage as a union of man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis,” and in 1972, the US Supreme Court upheld Baker.

The Baker case became controlling law on so-called gay marriage for all federal courts. And it is important to note that Baker has not been overturned!

Back in the mid-1970’s I received a phone call from the late Dr. D. James Kennedy concerning the pending legislation that ultimately became known as the Defense of Marriage Act (or DOMA). Dr. Kennedy called me to ask if I would a take a public stand and write a public statement in support of his efforts at increasing public endorsement of DOMA and place it on both of my websites because he seemed to believe that I had quite a large following. I told him I was a great supporter of him and his ministry but that I could not do what he asked. He asked me why. I told him the following, almost word for word: “Dr. Kennedy, I have studied the Constitution and I do not see where the Constitution gives the federal government any authority or jurisdiction over marriage. And I like that. I do not want the federal government to define marriage because as soon as it defines marriage, it controls marriage. From the fantastic book by Frank Herbert, Dune, comes one of my favorite quotes: ‘He who defines a thing controls a thing.’ Further, any definition Congress gives to marriage can be changed tomorrow or next year by a different and more liberal Congress. Still further, if we give Congress the authority to define marriage, then Congress can and will assume it has the authority to enforce that definition. Whether in DOMA, or in some follow-up legislation, or in some federal agency policy, the federal government has always taken things as far as it can. That means some federal policing agency sooner or later can come into my house and into my bedroom to make sure I am doing what I am required or NOT doing what I am prohibited. And I will not stand for that. Consequently, I would expect to go to jail sooner or later because I will not let the government into my bedroom. Dr. Kennedy, I cannot support a bill I believe to be unconstitutional and dangerous.” He hemmed and hawed and finally told me he agreed with me. We talked politely for a few more minutes, and he hung up. This was before the Supreme Court decision underscoring the Court’s position that marriage was not under federal jurisdiction.

Last year, in US v. Windsor (2013) the United States Supreme Court struck down the federal statute known as “The Defense of Marriage Act.” Conservative Christians all over this country have shouted that without DOMA, not only will so-called gay marriage become the norm all across America, but that no one could legally deny polygamy and all sorts of marital perversions. This is simply not true. Even the liberal NY Times caught the reason the Supreme Court struck down the law, when it stated: “Justice Kennedy writes that the Defense of Marriage Act violates the principles of federalism, which allow states to largely chart their own course.” The Times went on to quote Justice Kennedy: “The State’s power in defining the marital relation is of central relevance in this case quite apart from principles of federalism.”

In other words, the majority opinion of the US Supreme Court is that marriage, and especially the definition of marriage, is not a federal issue. This was consistent with the Baker decision and the Griswold decision before that. A “fundamental right” based on “natural law” was outside the authority and jurisdiction of the government, and the Supreme Court had no subject matter jurisdiction allowing it to render a decision on the matter. Specifically, the Constitution grants the federal government absolutely no authority or jurisdiction over marriage. As such, Congress cannot pass a law regarding the definition of marriage. Maybe the States can, but the federal government cannot. As Kennedy claimed, this question goes far beyond federalism, the political doctrine of State’s Rights.

Federalism is the belief shared by the Founding Fathers that each of the States is a sovereign government with full authority and jurisdiction over each and every issue not explicitly delegated to the federal government. Federalism is summed up by the Tenth Amendment, which clearly claims that any power not explicitly delegated to the federal government is explicitly reserved for the States or for We The People. Clearly and importantly, Federalism says the federal government does not have the authority BECAUSE that authority that authority has not been given it. The claim that the issue goes “far beyond federalism” says the States MIGHT have the authority but the central government DEFINITELY DOES NOT.

Recently, on November 6, 2014, the Sixth District Court of Appeals for federal cases rendered a very important decision on the issue of so-called gay marriage by upholding the ban against so-called gay-marriages in several States. The Sixth District stated they are constrained by the Supreme Court case in Baker. “The Court has yet to inform us that we are not, and we have no license to engage in a guessing game about whether the Court will change its mind or, more aggressively, to assume authority to overrule Baker ourselves.” The 6th District Appeals Court went on to say: “A dose of humility makes us hesitant to condemn as unconstitutionally irrational a view of marriage shared not long ago by every society in the world, shared by most, if not all, of our ancestors, and shared still today by a significant number of states.”

The Sixth District Court of Appeals is a federal court. Decisions by the 6th District Court of Appeals are the Law of the Land for only four States, and it controls only the federal courts below it. All their decisions remain in control of the federal courts in those four States unless and until the Supreme Court overrules their decisions. There are federal courts in forty-six other States that are not controlled by the Sixth District. And individual State Courts and State Legislatures are not bound by the decisions of the Sixth District. This is why the Sixth District Court of Appeals upheld the cases in the several States below it – the Sixth District had no authority or jurisdiction to overturn the cases of those States on this issue.

Please understand, ALL federal courts are controlled by the US Supreme Court, and the Sixth District merely pointed out that the Supreme Court has already issued a decision on so-called gay marriage that is currently the Law Of The Land for America. But as you and I both know, some federal courts have rendered decisions on so-called gay marriage that are inconsistent with the controlling law on the issue.

And many people have complained that the Supreme Court has denied hearing the appeals of several lower court federal cases which have issued contrary decisions about so-called gay marriage. They claim that would leave in place different decisions on the legal status of gay marriage. But based on Grizwold and Baker, cases that the Supreme Court already handed down, the issue has been settled. And the settled case law on this issue is binding on ALL federal courts. Those federal judges who handed down decisions contrary to the US Supreme Court have violated their Oaths of Office and their Bar pledges. The only reason these judges are still in office receiving a federal paycheck is because We The People have allowed it to remain unchallenged.

The US Supreme Court seems to be taking America in the proper direction. It has claimed that marriage is a “fundamental right” and not a “federal right” granted by the Constitution or any federal statute. And it has claimed that a fundamental right is beyond – outside – the authority and jurisdiction of the federal government and the federal courts. This means the Supreme Court, if it remains true to its earlier decisions, has no option but to strike down all federal court decisions that allow for or mandate any so-called gay marriage rights.

It is true that this action will leave the issue to the States, but that is where the issue belongs. Further, the States that allow for so-called gay marriage do so only because a federal court in that State either created a right for gays to marry, or else threw out the will of the people of that State, which was to outlaw the possibility of gay people to marry.

In other words, if the US Supreme Court strikes all federal court decisions that create or allow so-called gay marriage, there will be no so-called gay marriages in any State in America.

I believe you will see the US Supreme Court take on this issue and these court cases in the Summer of 2015. And I believe you will see the overturning of every federal case in America that grants or allows so-called gay marriage based on some alleged Constitutional right or “natural law” or “fundamental right” to get married.

I believe that America will see all so-called gay marriages disbanded sometime in late 2015.

 

Cases:

  1. Grizwold v. Connecticut, 381 US 479 (1965)
  2. Baker v. Nelson, 409 U.S. 810 (1972)
  3. U.S. v. Windsor, 133 S.Ct. 2675 (2013)

Let’s talk about SEX.

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‘The nice thing about Carrying your own Silence (see what I did there? I am Silence Carrier so, you know…thats…it’s what I do. Get it?)  Truly Carrying your silence with you allows you to listen, to see, and to really be able to process  the things you see and hear going on all around you, without distraction. Sometimes it is more favorable to listen, that you may fully understand, than to ramble on a point that is ultimately pointless.  I thank Mr. Zom for allowing  me to this avenue to set my silence down for a spell, that I may rest my tongue from being so frequently bitten down upon.

But back to my original point:

Sex. (ahh, I see  I have your attention again)

It’s everywhere . Really. Our society is embedded with it. It is engrained into everything we do.  And why shouldn’t it? Don’t we all owe our very existence to that very act?

We’ve all heard the story, the “tale as old as time” as it were. “When a mommy and a daddy love each other VERY MUCH…” und so weiter…

Human sexuality is a subject of deep fascination at some point or other to every individual who has ever, or will ever exist. If you are thinking to yourself, “Well not to ME!” you are lying to yourself.
Of COURSE sex is fascinating! It’s the most interesting thing in the world!

The problem however (that’s right, you knew I was coming to this didn’t you?) is that it IS important. It is one of the most important aspects of life in fact. Important, necessary, special, SACRED. It is but you wouldn’t get that impression if you  walk amongst our fellow citizens of this planet just now.

Society of late has made great effort to  tear down that title of ‘sacred’. The pornography industry thrives on making voyeuristic sex casual, raunchy, and terrifyingly easy to  access by those who seek it.(and those numbers are great, or the industry wouldn’t be so lucrative) The term “casual hook up” is a commonly heard phrase. Popular magazines, television shows, songs on the radio, they all devalue and cheapen what is arguably one of the most important aspects of life!

Let’s take for example the much hyped, upcoming movie, “Fifty Shades of Grey”. We all know that it is based on the bestselling book of the same title. You should of course know that the basis for this book’s popularity is …you guessed it, SEX!  It contains quite a lot of it, detailed and gratuitously lascivious. The book became popular among the middle aged female demographic. I won’t go into all the reasons I am against it, from how its poorly written, or that it promotes dangerous lies, or really because its just terrible.  Despite all of that, it still has a relatively, respectable sized fan base.  And why? Because society has gone ahead and given the ‘Okay’ to making sex nothing more than a mere, casual element of life!

“But why is it such a big deal?” you might ask me.

Here it is: It isn’t….if you are in a committed, marriage.
‘Ahhhh,  there it is Silence. The JUDGEMENT. You are going to JUDGE me for sex outside of marriage, you JUDGEMENTAL, JUDGE-Y person you!!’

Yes, yes, I know, but hear me out. Lets put it in metaphorical terms.

Sex is like fire.

It is necessary, even essential for human life. It provides warmth, light,  and heat to cook  food. Without it we would not survive.   However, it is also dangerous and destructive. It has the capacity to utterly destroy when not employed in the proper confines. If you prepare and build a proper campfire, it can be wonderful, but if you simply light a match in your living room, it is likely going to burn the place down, or at least cause a good deal of damage.

As I said before, none of us would be here if not for the big ‘S’ word, and therein lies the reason it SHOULD be kept within the bonds of marriage. the primary purpose of sex is procreation. That’s not to say that its the SOLE purpose, but if it is continued to be treated without regard for the potential consequences, then we will have more and more “unwanted” pregnancies, and those who cry out in favor of abortions for the sake of convenience will continue (but that is a whole separate topic of its own, which I will leave alone for the time being)

For now, lets think a little bit about the gravity of the choices we make. Be aware of the prevalence of how we are surrounded by sexuality, even admire the beauty and divine intricacy of it,   but please folks, lets think it through first, don’t allow it to be common and cheap. We can do better than that, we can BE better than that.

-Silence Carrier

Throw Away the Old

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We live in a “throw away” world. Planned obsolescence is the rule. Cars are not designed to last more than 150,000 miles. Homes are designed to last about 100 years. Diapers are disposable. Computers become outdated in just a couple of years and need to be replaced.

What about people?

I recently saw a commercial for a service called, “A Place for Mom.” Joan Lunden, former host of Good Morning America laments her concern for her fragile ailing mother. Her solution—A service which finds an institution for her mom. Rewind a hundred or so years ago? What used to happen to aging parents? Were they thrown away in an institution for the aging just waiting for them to die????

When Jesus Christ was on the cross, just before he gave his life for all mankind, He gave the solution! In John 19:26-27 we read, “When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple standing by, whom He loved, He saith unto His mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith He to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.”

Jesus had the PERFECT solution (As HE always does!) How should we care for aging parents? We, their children take care of them!!! We aren’t to put them in holding places for them to wait to die. We are to take them into our homes (or to go to their homes) and take care of them!!!!

Just as our parents sacrificed to care for us as children, we are to, in turn, care for THEM! A mother sacrifices her body, her health, her well-being for 40 weeks to incubate and nurture our growing and developing bodies. And then, they descend into the “valley of the shadow of death” to give us life! But that is not all. Then, mother with father (hopefully!) sacrifice their time, their means, their very freedom to nurture, teach and train us to become independent, productive, thinking individuals. Do we not then have a divine responsibility to care for our parents as they age and come to the conclusion of their mortal life?

Jesus, clearly, had been caring for His mother, and when He knew that He would no longer be able to care for His sweet, loving, Holy mother, He “found” another son to care for her. He didn’t call a nursing home. He didn’t allow the “state” to take over responsibility. He showed us the way we are to care for our aging parents. His beloved disciple took her to his home, and cared for her.

Have you ever been in an “old folks home,” nursing home, assisted living center? Have you seen the sad, longing, empty eyes of the residents? Have you ever talked to them? All they want is their family! They are lonely. They are sad. And it’s a crying shame!!!

Can we not learn from the teachings and example of our Savior, Jesus Christ? Please, please, PLEASE take responsibility for your parents!!! They have so much to offer! They have sacrificed SO much to make your life possible! Siblings can help each other bear the wonderful burden of caring for aging parents! The responsibility should not fall on just one child, but, even if it does, what a wonderful burden! What an opportunity to give a little back to our parents!!!

 

Oaths, ROE, and Grattitude

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“I, {state name}, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

This is the enlistment oath taken by every enlisted personnel as they enter into their military service, before they leave for boot camp, but it is also used when re-enlisting, while currently serving.

“I am a United States Sailor.
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and I will obey the orders of those appointed over me.
I represent the fighting spirit of the Navy and those who have gone before me to defend freedom and democracy around the world.
I proudly serve my country’s Navy combat team with Honor, Courage and Commitment.
I am committed to excellence and the fair treatment of all.”

This is the creed that every sailor memorizes and promises to uphold when they graduate Navy boot camp.

“In times of war or uncertainty there is a special breed of warrior ready to answer our Nation’s call. A common man with uncommon desire to succeed.

Forged by adversity, he stands alongside America’s finest special operations forces to serve his country, the American people, and protect their way of life.

I am that man.

My Trident is a symbol of honor and heritage. Bestowed upon me by the heroes that have gone before, it embodies the trust of those I have sworn to protect. By wearing the Trident I accept the responsibility of my chosen profession and way of life. It is a privilege that I must earn every day.

My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own.

I serve with honor on and off the battlefield. The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men.

Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond.

We expect to lead and be led. In the absence of orders I will take charge, lead my teammates and accomplish the mission. I lead by example in all situations.

I will never quit. I persevere and thrive on adversity. My Nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down, I will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.

We demand discipline. We expect innovation. The lives of my teammates and the success of our mission depend on me – my technical skill, tactical proficiency, and attention to detail. My training is never complete.

We train for war and fight to win. I stand ready to bring the full spectrum of combat power to bear in order to achieve my mission and the goals established by my country. The execution of my duties will be swift and violent when required yet guided by the very principles that I serve to defend.

Brave men have fought and died building the proud tradition and feared reputation that I am bound to uphold. In the worst of conditions, the legacy of my teammates steadies my resolve and silently guides my every deed. I will not fail.”

This last creed, The Warrior’s Creed is specific to the most elite combat force in the US military, the Navy SEALs.  It hasn’t been around for very long, but it took a while to come up with something that embodied everything that SEALs are expected to live up to.

I was fortunate enough to read American Sniper when Chris Kyle was still alive.   It is a tale of combat. Of loss. Of honor.  But most of all, it’s a memoir of a man who was trying to save lives.

But he’s a sniper! HE KILLED people!” I can hear the critics screaming.  Service members do not take lightly their obligations to do the things most people could not.  And beyond morality, they are also taught that every single time they pull the trigger on a weapon, that there is a lawyer attached to that bullet, so their actions had better be justified.

The current Rules Of Engagement (ROE) as per the US Navy War College is 99 pages in length. There are four different types of self defense outlined.  “Self-defense” here is defined as ” …the use of force to defend against attack or imminent attack.”   Also the book details that “Hostile Act” (attack) and “Hostile Intent” (threat of imminent attack) are justifiable reasons to use force for self-defense.  It also states that where operational circumstances permit that military forces need to warn the threat  and “give {them} an opportunity to withdraw or cease it’s threatening actions.”  (Read: expose your hidden position to an active shooter, communicate in another language to your potential killer that you have greater fire power that you’re willing to use, unless they stop, and only THEN can you actively engage and defend yourself, meanwhile several of your best friends may have been killed by this entity you’re trying to convince to stop shooting so THEY can retreat.)  Only THEN is “the use of force authorized so long as the hostile act or hostile intent continues.”

So if that wasn’t clear enough, let me paint the picture for you: You’re on a rooftop in the sandbox, with a sniper rifle, and it’s your job to protect your friends, who you share a tent with, and keep them alive while they are trying to engage terrorist.  You see your friends’ convoy just below you, but you look ahead through your scope to see a local, with a suspicious looking device and acting suspiciously, as he glances over his shoulder multiple times looking directly at your friend’s convoy.  You think he may be placing an improvised explosive device (IED) on the side of the road to kill your friends.  But you’re not sure what he has, or what he’s doing, really.  You have to use your training and experiences and the potential target’s behavior (is he acting like everyone else? If not, HOW is he acting? Who is he been hanging around? What has that group of people been doing? Are they actually locals? Or are they terrorists trying to kill your friends?)  AND you have to determine all this in a matter of SECONDS.

This doesn’t even begin to touch on the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) but since we’re not really going down that road, I’ll skip it for now.

The current ROE for our armed forces have become a web of bureaucratic law that ties the hands of our armed forces so as not to have ANY casualties of war that it winds up getting more of our troops, our sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters killed.

But if the ROE makes it so that we don’t kill ONE innocent life, then it’s ALL worth it!” I can hear you saying.

If this is your thought, let me ask you, would you still feel that way if that was YOUR son, daughter, husband, or wife that was killed because they were following these overly restrictive, yet collateral damage reducing ROE?

Which brings me to my actual point.

Michael Moore tweeted, “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse”

Seth Rogen tweeted, “American Sniper kind of reminds me of the movie that’s showing in the third act of Inglorious Basterds.”

Michael Moore followed his tweet up by saying, “But if you’re on the roof of your home defending it from invaders who’ve come 7K miles, you are not a sniper, u are brave, u are a neighbor,” essentially saying that the terrorist snipers who are actively trying to kill American troops who are trying to fulfill a mission of giving a country back to it’s people from a tyrannical government are “brave,” and “neighbors.”

Seth Rogen followed his up with, “I just said something “kinda reminded” me of something else. I actually liked American Sniper. It just reminded me of the Tarantino scene.” and “I wasn’t comparing the two. Big difference between comparing and reminding. Apples remind me of oranges. Can’t compare them, though.” Finally “But if you were having a slow news day, you’re welcome for me giving you the opportunity to blow something completely out of proportion.”

I hardly expect either Moore or Rogen to understand the kind of commitment, dedication, and literal blood, sweat, and tears it takes to be in the military, let alone what it takes to be a SEAL, or a combat sniper.

I will forgive Rogen for accidentally putting his foot in his mouth.  We have all done it at some point.  However I try to keep my podiatric sandwiches exclusively in person, and not posting it to where I can be criticized by the world.

Moore, however, has a lot more to make up for than two offensive, insensitive, unpatriotic, disrespectful tweets.  (But we won’t go into Bowling for Columbine, Farenheit 9/11, etc. here.) This is directed specifically to Michael Moore, (and anybody that agrees with him):

You specifically said your uncle was killed by a sniper in WWII.  Then you said you were taught that snipers were cowards.

Lets examine these two statements.  Your uncle, if he was killed in WWII, we can infer that he was a combat soldier/Marine/sailor.  If your uncle was a military guy, then he was over there, literally fighting, bleeding, and dying to protect our way of life from the greatest threat the world had ever known up to that point.  So to your uncle, I say “THANK YOU!” And to you I say this; How dare you categorize a single specific aspect of the military, which you obviously know nothing about, when your only knowledge of the subject came from the opposing end, and from a source that may have been forced upon by threats of death to be there.  (Unlike our military, not all Nazis were volunteers.) In case you forgot, we WON that war, and continue to live in freedom because of the brave selfless acts of those LIKE Chris Kyle AND your uncle!  Chris Kyle made himself abundantly clear on his Facebook page when he started getting criticism after the release of his book by posting, “If you don’t like what I have to say or post, you forget one thing, I don’t give a shit what you think. LOL.”  But your uncle, on the other hand, gave his life in combat, (and is probably rolling over in his grave) so obese, small minded, disgraceful people like you could continue to express your opinions because of the First Amendment.

To be clear, Chris Kyle, and Moore’s uncle are the heroes.  Moore, is the coward.

So as a veteran, not that you really understand or even care or acknowledge what that means, and on behalf of all veterans, you’re welcome. And try to show some more respect in the future.

 

-Joseph Forefathers

The truth about Islam and the Western World

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In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.
In 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the Battle of Lepanto. In 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies.

This crap has been going on for 1,400 years and half of these damn politicians don’t even know it !!!

If these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non – existent; Judaism certainly would be… And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler’s guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other “subhuman”.

In 1783 AD when the British Colonies that would become the United States of America gained independence from Great Britain, 5 Muslim countries of North Africa declared war on our newly independent nation, hijacking and kidnapping merchant sailors and selling them for ransom, or into slavery.

When the United States of America was established, we were forced to pay extortion fees amounting to 20 – 25% of our federal budget to those Muslim countries to keep them from their hijacking and kidnapping. It took two administrations, Washington and Adams, to build a sufficient Navy so that President Jefferson, in 1805, could send the Navy and Marines to conquer Tripoli and end the piracy. Islam has been at war with the USA since our founding.

Reflecting: Many Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves. Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!

Do you remember?

  1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
  2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
  3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.
  4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome , with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
  5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
  6. During the 1980’s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
  7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
  8. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
  9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
  10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
  11. In 1993 , the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
  12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
  13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
  14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
  15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by—you guessed it—a Muslim male.
  16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.
  17. In 2014, thousands of Christian men, women, and children are slaughtered, defiled, and beheaded by Muslim males.

No, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? HA
So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.

Absolutely No Profiling! Instead, they must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President’s security detail, 85-year olds, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, BUT leave Muslim Males alone lest airport security be guilty of profiling.
Have the American people completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason???

It’s Interesting how the Mormon Church just Can’t be left alone!

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Mormons truly believe in “live and let live.” There is literally documented proof of this apparent little known fact.

The official Latter Day Saint Article of Faith #11 of 13 reads as follows:

“We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.”

What this means to me is that Mormons prefer to believe and worship in their own way, without being chided, heckled, and generally made to feel all bad about themselves. Furthermore, their faith requires them to respect and support the rights of how other folks exercise their beliefs.

This sounds like an extremely simple and reasonable creed to follow, and I can’t imagine anyone having a problem with it. But, many do, some to the extreme. It’s interesting how many people have let themselves become completely consumed in their dislike for the Mormon Church! There are many who have turned their dislike into its own full scale cause — especially the ones who were once members themselves, who left the church for whatever reason. They spend much of their time anxiously engaged in fighting against Mormons and the LDS Church. I’ve noticed also, that many of these people are mean, scathing, and vicious in the words they use, as if their ultimate goal is to be as hurtful as possible toward the Mormons, while all along proclaiming their own Christianity.

I mean seriously — if you don’t like the Mormon faith, then don’t subscribe to it. If you were once a Mormon and left the fold, saw the light and got out, managed to escape, finally became enlightened and liberated, or however you wish to describe it, then fine, be gone, and have a nice life, the rest of the Mormons wish you much joy and happiness in your new life because once again — they claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of their own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.” To me, this is, in fact a very cool perspective.

 

-TomZom

Dreams, present, past and future

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So I had a dream last night, which I actually remember, and that’s kind of a big deal, because I normally don’t remember my dreams.  So here it goes:

Dream:

I’m a kid again and I’m at a group archery lesson.  Only it’s not just archery, it’s baseball…combined with archery. (This sounds perfectly safe…) {I think the rules were the same as baseball, except that all the players had a bow, instead of a glove, and the arrow replaced the ball, but the “batter” had to catch the flying arrow, and shoot it into the outfield.  No tag outs by a direct shot.}

So I’m up to “bat” and the kid playing catcher is someone I remember from my youth, but represented completely out of character here.  He was taunting me, and being a general bully, but unlike my actual child self, I was standing up to him and generally not letting him get to me.  But because he wasn’t getting to me, he escalated.  I missed the first arrow, and instead of shooting it back to the “pitcher” he shot it directly at my face!  I was fortunately fast enough to see this, and duck out of the way, but none of the adults in charge saw it.  When I blew up and started screaming at him, all the other teammates jumped in on HIS side, saying “it was just a stupid joke,” and “don’t be so sensitive about it,” and “grow up!”

I screamed at the top of my lungs, “YOU SHOT AN ARROW! AT MY FACE!!!” Again it was met with the same kind of excuses.

At this point I finally went to the neglectful adults to inform them of the current situation.  They all followed me, back to the field where we came to find every other player lined up like perfect angels, each one in turn, starting with the primary offender, offering the most straight-faced, insincere, obligatory apology, paired with a curtsey.

The adults of course bought it, while I was not fooled.

End Dream.

When I woke up this morning, I was admittedly confused.  Then I got on Facebook and started reading comments about the SOTU last night.  And it dawned on me.  My dream was a direct relation to how I feel about the current State Of The Union.  Those in charge of making the rules have altered the rules into an atrocity of the original game.   And then not even appropriately (and even excluding themselves) enforcing the mandated tax penalty “new rules”, furthermore practically condoning those who are literally physically assaulting those of us who are trying to still play BY the new, albeit INSANE rules.

But this isn’t baseball.  This is the fundamental process of how this country works!  This country was founded as a Republic, and upon a free market economy – NOT SOCIALISM!

Our Forefathers knew and even warned of the dangers of both  losing  the republic, and the dangers of having political parties, especially that of a two party system.  And yet, that is exactly what we have devolved into.

Which brings to mind the current social climate of the union.  We have truly devolved as a society.  Someone once said (and I’m paraphrasing here) “America has never been more united than on September 12, 2001.”  We were bound together as a nation in tragedy, but it brought out the best in us as neighbors, friends, strangers, and even families.   But here we are 14 1/2 years later and people are at each others’ throats over the most trivial things.  Because they get blown out of proportion to the degree that we have truly divided as a nation.

I hear a lot of people say that you shouldn’t “judge” others.   To that I say, “Bullcrap.”  Even Martin Luther King Jr. knew that we had to make judgements, but to do so for the right reasons!

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

“NOT be judged by the color of their skin, BUT BY the content of their character.” 

It’s not only “good” to make judgements…it’s absolutely VITAL.   We make judgements all the time!  Those two suspicious characters in the alleyway looking over their shoulders trying to look casual, are you going to go down that alleyway because it’s the shortcut home?  Or are you going to use your judgement and take the long way, because it’s out in the open and you know three people that live on that route?

People, use your GOD GIVEN brains, that HE WANTS YOU TO USE, and start thinking more about what you can do to be a better person, a better neighbor, and better son, daughter, brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, grandparent, grandchild, and just a better citizen of this country.  Stop worrying about the latest fads, trends, the newest app/game/device, etc, and get out in the world and BE A PART of IT!  And for the love of all that is good and holy, STOP PUTTING YOURSELF FIRST!  What can you do to help others? Learn to compromise, to speak kindly, and to be a decent human being.

I know I am full of my own flaws, we all are.  I’d be a straight up liar if I said I was even a fraction of 1% on my way to being perfect.  I’m not…but I am trying to be the best human being I know how to be. And I’m educating myself where and when I can, on every subject that I can by being open to other points of view, other than my own.   And I adapt.   If I have always done something a specific way, but someone shows me a new, more efficient, faster way to do something, I adapt and my life becomes easier because of it.  I think we could all benefit from adapting more, and learning to judge for the RIGHT reasons.  If everybody else was trying as hard as they could, then pushed a little bit further, this world could be a dream to live in.

But I guess that’s why it’s only a dream.

 

-Joseph Forefathers

Sheep, Wolf, or Sheepdog?

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First I’d like to thank TomZom for inviting me to contribute to this page.  I appreciate this outlet to let my voice be heard.

“So…who are you?” I can hear you saying.  Before I tell you who I am, let me take a minute and let you know how I think.

When it comes down to the very basics, everyone can be categorized in three different ways.

The most common, especially in America, is the sheep.  Yes, I’m saying it, most of you are sheep.  Sheep are those that “just want to live their lives peacefully and not rock the boat.”  Sure, I want that too, but as a wise man once said, “You need to stand for something, or you’ll fall for anything.”

I find that so very true, because of the current state of our country.   The lack of indictments of certain people in power.  Why aren’t more people absolutely furious?!?   What has happened to the America I grew up in?  What have we denigrated into?

The second kind of person are the wolves.  These are the predators of the world.  They could be after any number of things.  Power. Money.  Sex.  Your life.  These are the bad people.  But you don’t always know who they are because they come in so many forms.  They can be manipulative, forceful, coercive, or any combination of these things.

The final category is the sheepdog.  These are those who are aware.  Aware of their surroundings, the political climate, the economy, and life in general.  They stand up for what they believe in, and are passionate about it when they do so.  It may sometimes come across as mean, or insensitive, but if you listen to their words, you understand and realize that they are protecting something.  It could be a person, an animal, or the very thing that is most precious in this life: Freedom!

I am a sheepdog.

Sheepdogs come in many forms as well.  They may be bold.  They may be loud.  They may be quiet.  They could be a veteran, or someone who never served, but wanted to desperately…or even had no desire to serve in the military at all.  Though we are few in number, we recognize each other when we meet.  Maybe not right away, but once we start talking, it’s not hard to pick up on.   We find each other and know immediately that we’ve got each others backs.

The interesting thing about being a sheep, a wolf, or a sheepdog is that it’s not genetic.  It is a choice.  Many may say, “but I’m a victim of circumstance, therefore I’m …”  Poor, a thug, a hero, pick one.  But that’s just it, WE CHOOSE OUR PATH, regardless of the hand that we’ve been dealt.  If you think otherwise, then you’re lying to yourself.

So that’s me, you friendly, neighborhood sheepdog.  I have my convictions, which I am VERY passionate about.  And because common courtesy dictates that publicly I usually hold my tongue in most situations, I do.   But here, I don’t have that restriction.

-Joseph Forefathers

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